Comments on: How to Sign Up for SAVE: Mistakes to Avoid When Switching Repayment Plans https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/ Expert Guidance From Personal Experience Mon, 04 Mar 2024 16:30:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Michael P. Lux, Esq. https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-13622 Mon, 04 Mar 2024 16:30:03 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-13622 In reply to MARILYN MCDONNELL.

Great question.

Yes, it is possible to exploit the loophole to sign up for SAVE. It’s a risky process with a firm deadline, but the reward is potentially huge.

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By: MARILYN MCDONNELL https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-13617 Mon, 04 Mar 2024 01:30:04 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-13617 If you do a double consolidation (loophole) can you then apply for the SAVE plan?

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By: DanW https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12908 Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:32:57 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12908 In reply to Michael P. Lux, Esq..

Michael – thank you for your thoughtful and informative reply. I looked at the NPR article you linked as well (again thanks). Additionally, I have attended one of the Massachusetts AG’s Student Loan Unit Assistance presentations. At the end of the day, it’s clear that those of us in situations where reliance is loophole-driven, are in a much more risky position which could result in higher costs and no loan forgiveness available on the 25th year of repayment. The latter outcome being the result of loophole elimination via administrative and/or political forces. As such, I am going to stay with my 2005 Parent Plus consolidated Navient-loan and perhaps increase my monthly principal payments.

Thanks again – very much – for your time and attention!

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By: Michael P. Lux, Esq. https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12906 Fri, 29 Dec 2023 15:08:55 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12906 In reply to DanW.

To break down this scenario, I think it is helpful to look at the two key items that might help you get where you want to go.

First, we have the one-time IDR count adjustment. As part of this program, you can consolidate loans and keep your progress from before consolidation (in the past this would have restarted the progress).

That new consolidated loan, if it includeds Parent PLUS loans would not be eligible for SAVE. However, it would be eligible for the ICR plan. Parent PLUS loans are not eligible for the SAVE plan.

The one possible workaround to get Parent PLUS loans eligible for SAVE called the “double-consolidation loophole”. It’s not a subject I’ve covered on this site as it is technically a loophole in the federal record keeping, but the Department of Education has recently acknowledged the situation and seems to be temporarily blessing it. NPR did a great article explianing the loophole and how to utilize it.

Hopefully this will give you a bit of clarity on your situation.

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By: DanW https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12903 Fri, 29 Dec 2023 01:50:50 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12903 I have been advised that if I consolidate my current loan with Navient, which consolidated several Parent Plus loans between 2003 – 2005, into an ICR (only IDR for which I can apply), and then submit an application to switch my new ICR into the SAVE plan before 7/1/24, I will be eligible for SAVE and the forgiveness clock will start with my original Parent Plus repayment start date (2003). As such, if this advice is accurate, I would achieve forgiveness in 2028 (25 years following original 2003 Parent Plus repayment start, subsequently consolidated into Navient loan). Hopefully my description makes some sense. Thanks in advance for your advice.

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By: Michael P. Lux, Esq. https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12494 Wed, 20 Dec 2023 21:48:22 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12494 In reply to Nick.

I’ve got a couple thoughts for you Nick. First, there isn’t a deadline to sign up for SAVE. You can wait to enroll. The downside is that you would lose out on potential progress toward forgiveness.

Also, you can use this calculator to estimate SAVE payments now and when the 5% rule is implemented.

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By: Nick https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12489 Tue, 19 Dec 2023 20:26:06 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12489 In reply to Michael P. Lux, Esq..

Thank you for your response annd possibly some great news. Are we able to switch from standard repayment to SAVE after we find out the idr count or is it something we should do immediately? Reason I ask is because when we use the payment calculator for idr plans it doubles our current payment. From what I can gather it appears to reflect 10% discretionary income still instead of 5% even though all loans are undergrad. Is the discrepancy on the percentage due to SAVE phase ll not being implemented until July or am I missing something?

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By: Michael P. Lux, Esq. https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12488 Tue, 19 Dec 2023 14:58:35 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12488 In reply to Nick.

If the monthly payment on SAVE is the same as the standard repayment, switching to SAVE probably is the better choice because you will get progress toward forgiveness.

Given that her balance is higher than what was originally borrowed, forgiveness could be a huge win. SAVE would also prevent future balance growth.

As long as she doesn’t have FFEL loans, the one-time adjustment should happen automatically. That said, the benefit only matters if you finish the progress toward forgiveness.

Finally, I’d encourage you to keep an eye on the forgiveness options currently in development. With a balance higher than what was originally borrowed, your wife could be in line to benefit from that.

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By: Nick https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12486 Mon, 18 Dec 2023 19:05:57 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12486 My wife went to school from 2002-2007 (in school deferment) then paid on her loans for a couple years then returned to school for a year in 2010 (in school deferment) from 2011-2014 was in an income driven repayment way under interest. When we got married in 2014 she had to switch to a 20 year standard repayment because my income would have bumped her income driven repayment way up (of course we learned about capitulation at that point adding an extra 12k). We also paid roughly half of the covid months we didn’t have to. My question is would her standard repayment months count towards her 240 months if we did the use one time adjustment and switched to save? With the 5% discretionary income limit our monthly payment goes down slightly even with my income added filing jointly. She still has roughly 12 years left in standard repayment and if the standard repayment months qualify I would think she’d be in the 180 qualifying payment range which might be worth switching to as her balance is actually still higher than her original loan amounts way back when.

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By: Michael P. Lux, Esq. https://studentloansherpa.com/sign-up-for-save/comment-page-1/#comment-12405 Mon, 04 Dec 2023 21:11:12 +0000 https://studentloansherpa.com/?p=17493#comment-12405 In reply to Linda.

The tax bomb is definitely an issue for borrowers to watch out for, but it won’t start until 2026 at the earliest.

I’m hopeful that there won’t be a tax bill when that time finally comes, but there is at least one good way to prepare just in case.

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